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rodesac “istern fromouSenma” damidastura TqvenTan intervius Caweris SesaZlebloba, pirveli rac TavSi momivida, Telonius monqis cnobili sityvebia: “me vambob, daukariT is, rac gsurT; nu ukravT imas, rasac publika iTxovs. daukariT, rac gsurT, de msmeneli TviTon mixvdes, rasac akeTebT, im SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu mas amisTvis TxuTmeti an oci weli dasWirdeba”. mgonia, rom monqis es sityvebi absoluturad esadageba Medeski, Martin and Wood-s, im mcireodeni gansxvavebiT, rom adamianebs, rogorc Cans, Zalian didi dro ar dasWirvebia Tqveni musikis gasagebad. ramdenad rTuli iyo msmenelis SeZena im bendisTvis, romelic musikas improvizaciiT qmnis?      

rodesac me, qriss da bilis pirvelad mogveca erTad muzicirebis saSualeba umal erT sxeulad vigrZeniT Tavi. sxvaTa Soris Tema, rac pirveli Sexvedrisas davukariT, mogvianebiT notebad vaqcie da is Cven pirvel diskSi Sevida. Tavidanve organulad  movergeT erTmaneTs da es samivem vigrZeniT. mivxvdiT, rom es iyo is musika, risi keTebac gvindoda. gadavwyviteT, gagvegrZelebina da gvenaxa, SevZlebdiT Tu ara aseTi musikiT msmenelis mozidvas. Cven Tvrameti wlis win SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da maSinve mivxvdi, rom axalgazrda Taobis amerikelebs arcTu ise exatebodaT gulze jazi. piradad me mimaCnia, rom jazis improvizaciuli suli (an rac gindaT is uwodeT mas), vgulisxmob mocemul momentSi arafridan raRacis Seqmnis mcdelobis survils, Zalze adamianuria. amave dros jazuri musikis eliturobam lamis istoriul musikad aqcies is. axalgazrdebs ki imis mosmena surs, rac dResaa aqtualuri, rac Tanamedrovea. amerika saocrad “aramegobrulia” Tavis musikaluri warsulisadmi. yvela is didi jazmeni, Cveni mentorebi, visac vaRmerTebdiT, evropaSi Soulobda lukma-puris fuls. im droisTvis Cveni evropaSi moxvedris Sansi naklebi iyo, amitomac fexebze davikideT yvelaferi da amerikis garSemo turneSi wavediT. vfiqrobdiT: “modi vnaxoT, ra moxdeba. bolos da bolos Cven xom is xalxi varT, visac sjera, rom msmenels axali musikis aRqmis unari aqvs”. koncertebis dros, imrovizaciisas vcdilobdiT, hif-hofis Tu sxva Tanamedrove musikaluri Janrebis elementebi  gamogveyenebina; daaxloebiT iseT musikalur nazavs vukravdiT, niu-iorkuli andergraundisaTvis romaa damaxasiaTebeli.  iq yvela saxis musikas ukraven, nebismieri musikaluri stilis kombinirebiT, iqneba es klezmeris da pankis Tu jazis da hif-hofis nazavi. maSin yvelaferi es odnav garekili, Tumca amave dros saocrad sicocxlisunariani iyo. axalgazrda musikosebi cdilobdnen  improvizirebuli musikis koncefciis gafarToebas, mis gaTavisuflebas stilisturi marwuxebisgan da axliT, ufro piraduliT gamdidrebas. Cven amas Cveneburad vakeTebdiT. ra Tqma unda, amerikaSi koncertebiT fulis Sovna ver movaxerxeT, amitomac samive niu-iorkSi davbrundiT da sxva musikaluri proeqtebis saSualebiT SevagroveT turneSi dasarCenad aucilebeli Tanxa. mere ki im fuliT viyideT karavi, traileri da turne gavagrZeleT. yavaxanebSi da patara klubebSi vukravdiT _ ZiriTadad iq, sadac axalgazrdebi ikribebodnen. erTxel erT jaz-klubSic davukariT, magram iq yvelaferi Camkvdari iyo da amitomac isev yavaxanebs davubrundiT. me miyvars jazi. bevri ramaa am musikaSi iseTi, rac absoluturad fantastikuria, magram Cven gamovtoveT jazis renesansis xana. dRes jazi istoriuli sazogadoebasaviTaa da misi smenac muzeumis monaxulebasaviTaa, rac TavisTavad cudi araa; me miyvars muzeumebi, Tumca es is araa, risi keTebac Cven gvinda musikaluri TvalsazrisiT. jaz-klubebis mapatroneebis umravlesobas ar esmodaT Tu ras vakeTebdiT. zogadad, jazis samyaros ki didi xani dasWirda Cveni musikis aRsaqmelad. es mxolod maSin moxda, rodesac jon sqofildma diski Cawera CvenTan erTad. swored maSin aRmovCndiT moulodnelad Blue Note-is mfarvelobis qveS. swored maSin daiwyo jazis samyarom imis gacnobiereba, rom raRacad vRirdiT. “uuh, maT im musikosTan daukres, vinc mailz devisTan ukravda”! – ai, maTi Cvendami moulodneli yuradRebis mTavari argumenti. principSi es normaluria, magram amave dros odnav ucnauric, ara? ras izam, ase muSaobs musikaluri biznesi amerikaSi! mokled, swored am saxiT miiRo amerikelma axalgazrdobam Cveni musika Tavidan da es yvelaferi viTardeboda, vidre erT mSvenier dRes moulodnelad e.w. jem-bendis fenomenad cnobili moZraobis saTaveSi ar moveqeciT. Zalian ar mogvwons jem-bends rom gviwodeben, magram ukve verafers gaawyob! es mTlianad Jurnalistebis bralia. dasawyisSi media ise iqceoda, TiTqos arc ki varsebobdiT, magram drois ganmavlobaSi es moZraoba ise momZlavrda, rom rodesac Jurnalistebi gons moegnen, msmenels CvenTvis ukve jem-bendis iarliyi hqonda mokruli. ubralo msmenelma, vinc kargad ar iyo garkveuli musikalur terminologiaSi, Cveni musikis gansasazRvrad termini “jem-seSeni” gamoiyena. is, ra Tqma unda, umal jazs gaxsenebs, radganac jazis istoriuli terminia.  samwuxarod, am TvalsazrisiT, dRes Cven ukve arafris gakeTeba aRar SegviZlia; termini “jem-bendi” marTlac rom iarliyiviT gvaqvs mokruli. gavagrZeleb;  yovelive amis Semdeg kidev ramodenime weli dagvWirda amerikeli msmenelis bolomde SesagrZnobad. sxvaTa Soris, swored am periodSi erTi turne evropaSic gavakeTeT _ sakmaod warmatebuli, Tumca Zalian xanmokle. evropas Tavisi problemebi aqvs. namdvilad ar msiamovnebs amis Tqma, magram evropas Tavisi sakuTari jaz-mafia hyavs da, rogorc es amerikaSi xdeba, iqac mailzTan Tu ar dagikravs, veravisac ver daaintereseb. yvelaferi es sasaciloa, magram asea da verafers gaxdebi; es ukve komerciaa. maT fulis keTeba surT, Cven ki yovelTvis vmijnavdiT musikas da bizness. musikalur industriaSi bizness versad gaveqceviT, magram CvenTvis mTavari mainc erTi ram iyo: Tu darbazSi Tundac TxuTmeti kaci mainc ijda, maTTvis vukravdiT. kargi isaa, rom sadac CavediT, yvelgan SevkribeT CvenTvis aucilebeli TxuTmeti Tu ormocdaaTi msmeneli. monqis sityvebs rom davubrundeT, swored ase viqceodiT _ vukravdiT imas, rac mogvwonda da Cven koncertebze modiodnen isini, visac mosvla undoda. im adamianebs, visac erTxel ukve mosmenili vyavdiT, ukve ainteresebdaT, Tu ra mimarTulebiT viTardeboda Cveni musika. mere ki Cven amerikis samxreT StatebSi gavemgzavreT sagastrolod, iq sadac adamianebs uyvarT cekva da drostareba. iq yofnisas ukve sacekvao musikis morgeba vcadeT Cveni dakrulisTvis. gvainteresebda, movaxerxebdiT Tu ara, sacekvao ganwyoba Segvetana musikaSi, Tan ise, rom rac Cven mogvwonda, imisTvis ziani ar migveyenebina. gvindoda, rom yvelaferi es ubralo TamaSad ki ar darCeniliyo, aramed Cveni musikiT msmeneli samogzaurod wagveyvana. dRes rogor musikasac vukravT, amaze yvelaze didi gavlena ubralo msmenelma moaxdina. uamravi dro gvaqvs daxarjuli Cvenive ritmuli enis gasaviTareblad. saaTebis ganmavlobaSi SegveZlo erTi da igive Temis triali mxolod imisTvis, rom bolomde SegvegrZno ama Tu im kompoziciis “gruvi.” niu-iorkSi bina arc erTs ar gvqonda, radganac sul turneebSi davdiodiT, niu-iorkSi ki civi zamTari icis da amitomac did dros havaebze vatarebdiT, sadac Shack-is saxeliT cnobil adgilas vwerdiT da vukravdiT musikas. swored iq CavwereT Cveni albomi Shackman. cxovreba havaebze Zalian sasiamovno iyo _  dRisiT okeaneSi vcuravdiT, mivirTmevdiT Tevzeuls, daseirnobdiT aqeT-iqeT, mere ki mTeli Ramis ganmavlobaSi SeuCereblad vukravdiT. mxolod im CvenTvis saocnebo energetikuli “gruvis” daWeraze vfiqrobdiT, arc erTs ar gvainteresebda solireba. rodesac samive vTanxmdebodiT, Tu romeli nawilebi iyo saintereso, ukve am nawilebis igvliv viwyebdiT improvizirebas. “gruvsa” da improvizacias Soris zRvari TiTqmis SeumCnevelia; “gruvze” agebuli saintereso musika ganmeorebadi ritmuli figurebisgan Sedgeba. unda icode da gesmodes, Tu rogor  daeyrdno am ritmebs, Tu improvizaciiT maT ganvrcobas apireb. Tu ginda, rom ufro kreatiulad miudge musikalur masalas, aucileblad unda gqondes mudmivad ganmeorebadi riTmis SegrZneba da imis gagebis unari, Tu rogor SeiZleba alteraciam am ganmeorebad figurebSi Secvalos is, rasac ukrav. sxvaTa Soris, swored amiTaa gansacvifrebeli markus mileri. is bendis wevrebisgan “Cafenil” ritmul “gruvze” agebs yvelafers da kompoziciis ganviTarebis procesSi musika sul ufro da ufro CamTrevi xdeba...

Tqven rogorRac axerxebT musikis Sesaqmnelad aucilebeli kreatiuli sivrcis SenarCunebas da ar cdilobT samuSao pirobebis gaadvilebas; piriqiT, TiTqos mizandasaxulad irTulebT muSaobis pirobebs. ase iyo Tqven bolo albomze, samdiskian Radiolarians-ze muSaobisas; musika, romelsac am albomze ismen, tradiciuli gziT ar CagiweriaT studiaSi muSaobisas. amave dros es araa Cveulebrivi “laiv” Canaweric. Tqven Tveebis ganmavlobaSi turneebSi mogzaurobisas pirdapir koncertebzeve, spontanurad qmnidiT da iwerdiT am musikas, da mxolod imis Semdeg, rodesac sakmarisi masala dagigrovdaT, studiaSi SexvediT da turneSi Seqmnili musika Tavidan CawereT. mainteresebs, musikis keTebisadmi aseT midgoma pirovnuli Tvisebebidan gamomdinarea, Tu ubralod migaCniaT, rom musikis Seqmnis procesSi xelovnurad Seqmnili dabrkolebebi Semdgomi ganviTarebis sawindaria?                

me mgoni orive. TiToeuli Cvenganis pirovnebas rac Seexeba, getyviT, rom, rogorc bendi, Cven gamonaklisi varT; iSviaTia bendi, romelic Tvrameti wlis ganmavlobaSi ucvleli SemadgenlobiT gamodis. Cveni pirveli Sexvedridan amdeni wlis Semdeg, dResac megobrebad vrCebiT, erTmaneTs dResac vesaubrebiT, dResac gviyvars erTmaneTi da drosac xSirad vatarebT xolme erTad. minaxavs bendebi, romlis wevrebsac ubralod ezizRebaT erTmaneTi. isini adian scenaze, ukraven imas, rasac adreul samocianebsa Tu samocdaaTianebSi ukravdnen, Semdeg ki piradi avtobusebiT an limuzinebiT toveben sakoncerto darbazebs. iciT, ras getyviT? dRes Cven kidev ufro axlos varT, vidre pirvelad rom gavicaniT erTmaneTi. mimaCnia, rom Radiolarians-ze muSaoba kreatiuli TvalsazrisiT didebuli iyo CvenTvis, rasac ver vityvi finansur mxareze. mTeli Cveni karieris manZilze ase iyo. Tumca SemiZlia gavixseno erTi epizodi, rodesac Dropper-is Caweris dros Zalian advilad SegveZlo gadagvedga nabiji ufro komerciuli, jazi-xvdeba-fanks tipis musikis mimarTulebiT. swored am periodSi miviReT CvenTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovani gadawyvetileba _  “amdeni wlis ganmavlobaSi Cven musikas “vawvebiT” da gvinda, rom SemdgomSic kreatiulebad davrCeT. amas aucileblad davkargavT, Tu Cvenive Tavis karikaturad viqceviT”. Aamitomac DDropper-ze muSaobisas kidev erTxel movikribeT Zalebi da vTqviT: “kargi, modi SevecadoT da Cvensave siRrmeebSi davZebnoT Rirebuli musika! modi, nu davukravT imas, rac ukve viciT! modi gulis siRrmidan wamosuli musika davukraT! Bbolos da bolos es xom isaa, rasac Cven mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi vakeTebdiT”? es periodi erTgvari Semobrunebis wertilad iqca CvenTvis. gvqonda Sansi, gavmxdariyaviT komerciulad ufro warmatebulebi, magram uari vTqviT amaze da dRes bednierebi varT musikaluri TvalsazrisiT, imitom, rom imas vukravT, rac pirovnulad varT. rogorc bends mxolod am gziT SegviZlia Semdgomi zrda da momdevno wlebis ganmavlobaSi erTad darCena. nebiT Tu uneblied sul imas vcdilobdiT, maTTvis dagvekra, vinc inteleqtualuri an sulieri stimulirebis ZiebaSi iyo; vcdilobdiT dagvekvra iseTi musika, romelsac msmenelis samogzaurod wayvana SeeZlo. amis gamo, Cven vkargavdiT msmenels; dResac vkargavT. ra Tqma unda, kargi iqneboda, yvelas rom vyvarebodiT, magram es ase araa da verc iqneba. rogorc san ra ambobda: „me CitiviT var. Citebi mRerian. zogi usmens maT simReras, zogi ki _ ara.” ai, daaxloebiT ase vcxovrobT Cvenc. nu ifiqrebT, rom amis gamo yvelaferi dinebaze gvaqvs miSvebuli; piriqiT,  Zalian bevrs vmuSaobT, da mxolod is gvinda, rom Cveni musika naRdi iyos; isic gvainteresebs, Tu rogor aRwevs is msmenelamde. es Zalian mniSvnelovania. 

Tqven erTxel TqviT, rom musikaSi mTavaria, moaxerxo “jadoqruli sulis” SenarCuneba. SegiZliaT ufro vrclad ganmartoT, ras gulisxmobdiT da gviTxraT, rogor xdeba am “jadoqruli sulis” SenarCuneba?    

Zalian gamiWirdeba. albaT ufro ara. es energiaa. yvelaferi es mxolod SegrZnebis donezea. “jadoqroba” musikaSi wminda adamianur gamocdilebas emyareba _ iqneba es emociuri Tu inteleqtualuri gamocdileba. musikis daniSnulebaa adamianebisTvis cxovrebis gaumjobeseba, gaumjobeseba ki yovelTvis bednierebas ar niSnavs. progresisken mimavali gza zogjer Zalian rTuli SeiZleba aRmoCndes. gankurnebis procesi xSirad mtkivneulia. vidre musika garTobad da komerciad iqceoda, is ubralod musika iyo,
a u c i l e b e l i adamianuri aqtivoba, iseTive, rogorc sakvebis miReba. musika adamianis arsebobisTvis aucilebeli, erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani elementia. 

ramdenadac vxvdebi, erTad Seyramde samive Tqvengans gansxvavebuli musikaluri warsuli gqondaT. Sesabamisad, samives gansxvavebuli elementi SegaqvT bendis saundis miRebaSi. ra msgavseba da gansxvaveba arsebobs Tqven sameulSi, rac kreatiuli balansis SenarCunebis saSualebas gaZlevT?    

dRes Cven ukve erTi ojaxiviT varT da, ra Tqma unda, amas Tavisi dadebiTi da uaryofiTi mxareebi aqvs. dResac sakmaod  bevrs vswavlobT erTmaneTisgan. pirvel rigSi albaT imitom, rom TiToeuli Cvengani, Medeski, Martin and Wood-is garda, kidev sxva uamrav proeqtSi monawileobs da xSirad es mxolod musikaluri  proeqtebi arcaa xolme. es SeiZleba poeziis saRamo iyos an sulac baleti an filmebisaTvis musikis wera. aseT SemTxvevebSi iseT proeqtebs virCevT, romlebic ganviTarebis saSualebas gvaZlevs rogorc adamianurad, ise musikaluradac. Semdeg ki im proeqtebidan miRebuli gamocdileba avtomaturad Tavs iCens Cven musikaSi. sakuTar proeqtebze muSaobisas bevrs ar vlaparakobT musikaze. sxvaTa Soris, im dokumentur filmze muSaobisas, romelic bilim Radiolarians-ze muSaobis procesSi gadaiRo, da romelic albomis samdiskiani audio nawilis vizualuri damateba iqneba (es filmi noemberSi iqneba mzad), erTi Cveni saerTo megobari, vinc bilis gadaRebis da montaJis periodSi exmareboda, gancvifrebuli darCa imiT, Tu ra cotas velaparakebodiT erTmaneTs turneSi yofnis da albomze muSaobis dros. Cven imdenad mWidro musikaluri kavSiri gvaqvs erTmaneTTan, rom xSirad saubari ubralod zedmetia. erTmaneTs raRac gaurkvevel bgerebiT an naxevrad dausrulebeli winadadebebiTac kargad vagebinebT yvelafers. rodesac es musikad iqceva, irkveva, rom swored musikaa is ena, romelze saubaric yvelaze metad gviadvildeba. Cven musikiT ukeT SevigrZnobT erTmaneTs, videre sityvebiT. swored es viswavle niu- orleanSi yofnisas adgilobrivi musikosebisgan. maxsovs, rodesac Dirty Dozen Brass Band-is disksze vmuSaobdi produserad, isini saubrobdnen, rodesac imis gadamowmeba surdaT, swor gzaze idgnen Tu ara, grZnobdnen Tu ara musikas. es yvelaze mniSvnelovani ramaa. Cven SegviZlia teqnikur detalebze an sxva raime msgavs Temaze saubari, aseve imis inteletualur mizezebze, Tu ra imuSavebs da ra ara, magram yvelafris Tavi da Tavi mainc isaa, Tu rogor vgrZnobT musikas. 

yofila Tu ara Tqveni musikaluri karieris ganmavlobaSi iseTi SemTxveva, rodesac Tavidan ar migiRiaT vinmesgan kritika, magram droTa ganmavlobaSi mimxvdarxarT, rom is viRac marTali iyo da azri SegicvliaT? 

rodesac erTad SeviyareT, im droisaTvis TiToeul Cvengans ukve met-naklebad gadalaxuli gvqonda krtikasTan mimarTebaSi Cven-Cveni sisusteebi. es imitom, rom bendis Seqmnamde bevri sxva ram gvikeTebia. ase rom, erTad roca SevikribeT, ukve mzad viyaviT kritikis misaRebad. im droisTvis TiToeuli CvenganisTvis ukve nacnobi iyo kritikis buneba. es rac Seexeba bends. individualurad ki TiToeuli Cvengani gansxvavebulad iRebs kritikas. piradad me ufro mawuxebs is, Tu rogor aRiqvamen Cven musikas adamianebi. bilis da qriss es yvelaferi naklebad anaRvlebT. yovelTvis mesmis marTebuli kritikuli SeniSvnis siswore da vafaseb imas, rasac sxvebi fiqroben. “ho, albaT sworia, rasac is ambobs”, – vambob xolme CemTvis. mniSvnelovania, sakuTar Tavs sxvisi TvaliT Sexedo Tundac imisTvis, rom gansazRvro, raa SenTvis naRdi da marTali. amave dros Zalian frTxilad unda iyo, msmenelis mxridan  araproporciulma molodinma rom ar waglekos. erTxel erT Cven albomze muSaobisas kinaRam Wkuidan gadavdeqi imaze fiqriT, moewonebodaT es musika adamianebs Tu ara. qrisi da bili auRelveblad muSaobdnen, me ki xarisxiani albomis keTebis aucileblobam kinaRam mwyobridan gamomiyvana. es yvelaferi ase  Rrmad imitom Semexo, rom saWiroze mets vnerviulobdi _ ras moeloda Cvengan xmis Camweri kompania? ras moeloda Cvengan msmeneli? am dros sruliad davkarge imis SegrZneba, Tu ra gvWirdeboda piradad Cven. Zalian Zneli iyo CemTvis aseT pirobebSi muSaoba...    

sxvaTa Soris Radiolarians-ze muSaobisas Tqven, Medeski, Martin and Wood-s vgulisxmob, Tavad iqeciT xmis Camwer kompaniad. raime axali SeityveT am dros? 

yvelaferi axalia da yvelaferi siurprizebiTaa savse! aseTia musikis keTebis da Caweris buneba. Radiolarians-is SemTxvevaSi, winaswar gvqonda gansazRvruli formula, da amitomac samdiskiani albomis Caweris procesi sakmaod ioli aRmoCnda. am dros Cven turneSi viyaviT da mTeli Casaweri masala turneSive yofnisas davagroveT. Semdeg ki TiTqmis ukve srulad gaTavisebuli  kompoziciebi, romlebsac cocxlad vasrulebdiT ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi studiaSi CavwereT da albomad vaqcieT. es ufro ioli iyo CvenTvis, vidre is, studiaSi rom Sedixar da arafrisgan raRac unda Seqmna. CemTvis es yvelaferi mudam seriozuli emociuri mogzauroba iyo. es mxolod Cemi problema iyo, Cemi piradi damokidebuleba kritikasTan. saboloo jamSi mTeli suraTi ase gamoiyureba _ Tavs vikatuneb, rom me es ar mexeba, arada Zalianac mexeba. sadRac siRrmeSi SeiZleba namdvilad ar manaRvlebdes es yvelaferi, magram aris CemSi raRac iseTi, rac mudam manerviulebs, moewoneba Tu ara Cveni musika msmenels. rogorc ukve giTxariT, uamrav sxvadasxva musikosTan damikravs sxvadasxva stilis musika da vici, rom SemiZlia yvelasTvis gasagebi musikiT adamianebis gabedniereba. advilad SemeZlo am gzas davdgomodi, magram sabednierod, qrisma da bilim damarwmunes, rom ukeTesi iqneboda, Tu Semoqmedebad davrCebodiT da mxolod da mxolod sxvebis gamrTob musikosebad ar gadaviqceodiT. 

radganac Tqveni musika TiTqmis asi procentiT improvizaciulia, cocxlad Sesrulebis dros xSirad Tu xdeba, rom sawyis Zafs kargavT, samagierod ki iseT mZlavr energetikul velSi eqceviT, rom iZulebuli xarT, mas mihyveT, imis miuxedavad, rom warmodgenac ar gaqvT, sabolood sad mixvalT?  

yovel saRamos, yvela koncertis dros! es imis nawilia,  Tu vin varT Cven da rogorc vakeTebT imas, rasac vakeTebT. yovel koncertze vcdilobT iseTi musikis dakvras, romelsac swored is elementi axlavs, rac ucnobi teritoriis mosinjvis saSualebas gaZlevs. yovel saRamos amisTvis cota dros mainc vitovebT xolme, radganac Zalian mogvwons amis keTeba. es unda gabedo da Seecado, im azrs Seeguo, rom am dros SiSveli dgaxar adamianebis winaSe. aseT momentebSi marTlac rom SiSvldebi da bevrs arc moswons, rodesac amas vakeTebT. es gasagebicaa, radganac Zalian xSirad es yvelaferi kargad ar J R e r s xolme. me Zalian miyvars klasikuri musika, pop musika da msgavsi raRacebi magram aucilebelia m e r y e o b i s velSi Sebijebac da imis miReba, rasac am dros saCuqrad iReb. improvizaciisas iseTi STabeWdileba grCeba, TiTqos sakuTar Tavis ZiebaSi xar da rodesac poulob, gixaria. es qveynad yvelaze ufro kargi ramaa! es aris erT-erTi yvelaze ufro kaTarzisuli gancda! yvelaferi, rac improvizaciis dros Cndeba, didebuli SeiZleba ar iyos, magram kargia, rodesac amis gabedvas axerxeb rogorc musikosi da rogorc bendi. CvenTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania, rom rac SeiZleba xSirad moviqceT ase.

Tvrameti wlis Tavze Tqveni musikaluri leqsikoni bevrad ufro mdidaria. isic aRsaniSnavia, rom Tqveni musikis akustikuri leqsikoni Tavadve SeqmeniT. gaafarToveT gamoxatvis saSualebebic. dRes improvizaciisTvis aucilebeli palitrac bevrad ufro mravalferovani gaqvT. aseTi arsenalis miuxedavad, mainc xom ar giwevT komfortul zonaSi “Securvis” da iq darCenis safrTxesTan brZola?
  
ki. es swored isaa, rac mudam cvalebadia, komfortul zonas vgulisxmob. garkveuli TvalsazrisiT, komfortuli zona musikosis s t i l i s t u r i Cvevebia. am Cvevebis mocilebiT musikosi axerxebs komfortuli zonidan gamosvlas. magram Tu Sen namdvilad Tavisufal musikas ukrav, am SemTxvevaSi yvelaferi ufro rTuladaa. rogorc Cemi erTi kargi megobari ambobs xolme: “Tavisufali musika niSnavs imas, rom Sen Tavis-ufali xar, daukra is, rac mogeprianeba. Tavisuflad dakvra ar niSnavs mxolod romelime konkretuli stilis miRma gasvlas.” anu, Sen SegiZlia stilisturi marwuxebis farglebs gareT gasvla, magram namdvili Tavisufali musika niSnavs imas, rom SegiZlia daukra regi, bosanova, an nebismieri sxva musika. amave dros, mimaCnia, rom komfortuli zona mxolod stili an Seni aqtualuri musikaluri leqsikoni ki araa, aramed energiuli velic, da is Seni unari, Tu rogor axerxeb im vibraciaSi moxvedras, sadac musika namdvilad mZlavri xdeba. dakvrisas Cven swored iseTi vibraciis Seqmnas vcdilobT, romelsac raRac mniSvnelovanis warmoCena SeuZlia da Cveni musika swored am gzaze Semdgari musikaa. didi bluzmenebi erTsa da imave notebs ukravdnen, magram yovelTvis axerxebdnen am mZlavr vibraciaSi moxvedras. yvela musikoss Tavisi gza aqvs gasavleli iq mosaxvedrad. igive exebaT klasikuri musikis Semsruleblebsac. viRacas Sopenis ise Sesruleba SeuZlia, rom yovel jerze sadRac sxvagan gadahyavs msmeneli! musikisgan swored aseTi vibraciis gamowvevas vcdilobT da, rogorc ukve giTxariT, iq mosaxvedri gza yvela musikosisaTvis individualuria.  

es is SekiTxvaa, romelsac xSirad vusvam xolme musikosebs, gansakuTrebiT _ jazmenebs: amboben, rom kargi musika aucileblad asaxavs im dros, romelSic is iqmneboda. ramdenad misaRebia es mosazreba TqvenTvis?  

dawyebuli Kind of Blue-Ti,  In a silent Way-is gavliT da Bitchaes Brew-mde mailz devisma es moaxerxa. vfiqrob, rom amis miRweva sruliad SesaZlebelia. imis erT-erTi mizezi, Tu ratom vukravT Cven samni da ratom davrCiT amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi erTad, isaa, rom niu-iorkSi rom Cavedi, is ki jazis qalaqia, da jem-seSenze dasakravad wavedi, mivxvdi, rom im musikas, rasac iq ukravdnen, ubralod ver vgrZnobdi. ratom? imitom, rom Tanamedroved ar JRerda. iseTi SegrZneba mqonda, rom muzeumSi movxvdi! maxsovs, pianisti daswavlil frazebs ukravda, da arc ki usmenda, bendis danarCeni wevrebi ras ukravdnen. swored maSin gavifiqre, - “ho, es namdvilad araa is, rac me qolTreinis musikis smenis dros mesmis xolme;  roca yvela saocrad daZabulad usmens erTmaneTs da swored aseTi intensiuri smenis Sedegad gaCenili pasuxisas ibadeba is saocari, mZlavri energia”. swored im pianistis smenisas gadavwyvite, rom araviTari survili ar mqonda iseTi musika damekra, rogorsac is ukravda. me radioSi mosmenil musikaze gavizarde. yovelTvis momwonda popularuli musika da sul mindoda misi im musikaSi integrireba, rasac me vakeTebdi. miyvars sTivi uonderi da rei Carlzi, hif-hofi da niu-orleanuri musika, me vaRmerTeb jeimz brauns, jimi hendriqss, da vili nelsons. ra kavSiri aqvs maT musikas jazTan? amitomac, me gulaxdili unda davrCeniliyavi Cemsave musikasTan mimarTebaSi da Cemi musikaluri interesebisTvis saSualeba unda mimeca, TviTon gaegnoT gza drois junglebSi. mimaCnia, rom Tu bolomde gulaxdili xar, Sen musikaSi aucileblad aisaxeba is dro, romelSic cxovrob.       

dRes xelovnebis mravali nimuSi arsebobs, romlebsac xelovnebis nawarmoebad qcevisTvis aucilebeli arc energia aqvT da arc gabeduleba. Tqven uamrav sxvadasva stilSi da bevr didebul musikosTan dagikravT, da Tqvenze kargad vin unda icodes, Tu ra gansxvavebaa musikaSi moCvenebiT, zedapirul novatorobasa da mniSvnelobiT datvirTul siaxles Soris...

es Zalian, Zalian rTuli SekiTxvaa da ar mgonia, amaze pasuxis gacema SevZlo. ver getyviT, Tu zogadad romeli musikaa mniSvnelovani siaxliT datvirTuli da romeli ara, magram mainc Sevecdebi, avxsa, me rogor mesmis es: am ors TiTqmis SeumCneveli zRvari hyofs, risi sityvebiT gadmocemac rTulia da swored amitomac vqmniT xelovnebis nawarmoebebs. sityvaSi ver vaqcevT da amitomac gamosaxatad sxva gzebs virCevT. es maTematikasaviTaa. Cemi azriT, da am bolo dros sul ufro Rrmad vrwmundebi amaSi, WeSmariti siaxliT da mniSvnelobiT datvirTul musikas yovelTvis sakuTar TavTan pirispir dgomis dros qmni. zogi aseT musikas “suliers” uwodebs, me ki arc vici, ra saxeli gamovuZebno. ai, bluzmenebi rom vaxsene, milionjer SeiZleba mousmino maT musikas, magram mainc ver amowuro verc energetikulad da verc melodiurad. yvelaferi es sakuTar TavTan gul-axdili “saubris” Sedegia. zogjer bavSvebi ufro Rrma xelovnebis nimuSebs qmnian! an kidev, ase vityodi: es universalurobis SegrZnebiT savse gulaxdili TviTgamoxatvis mcdelobaa. amaze ukeTesad ver agixsniT...