herbi henqoqi – upirveles yovlisa me adamiani var.

Tu uflebas momcemT Tqvenive citatiT daviwyeb. sul ramodenime Tvis win Tqven ganacxadeT: “ukanaskneli wlebis ganmavlobaSi me Rrmad gavacnobiere is, rom me musikosi ara var; es isaa rasac me vakeTeb da ara is vinc me var. erTaderTi vinc me uwyvetad SemiZlia viyo, - adamiania.” am bolo dros Tqven ise xSirad da iseTi enTuziazmiT saubrobT adamianad yofnis mniSvnelobaze TiTqos TqvenTvis raRac aqamde ucnobi aRmogeCinoT.

bevrs miaCnia, rom maTi yofiereba mxolod da mxolod karieruli interesebiT da mocemulobebiT ganisazRvreba. aqedan gamomdinare eqimebs, biznesmenebs, mocekvaveebs Tu inJinrebs SeiZleba egonoT, rom isini mxolod da mxolod eqimebi, inJinrebi, mocekvaveebi da biznesmenebi arian. sinamdvileSi ki SeuZlebelia iyo eqimi an biznesmeni 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi. vinaidan maT yavT ojaxebi, mSoblebi da naTesavebi Sesabamisad, es niSnavs imas, rom isini TviTon arian Svilebi, mSoblebi, debi an Zmebi. sakuTar SvilebTan da mSoblebTan ki 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi namdvilad ver iqnebi mxolod da mxolod mxatvari Tu inJineri. rogor SeiZleba megobarTan urTierTobis dros mxolod biznesmeni an eqimi iyo? maSasadame, situaciebidan gamomdinare, Cven sxvadasxva saxiT vaxdenT sakuTari Tavis manifestacias, rogorc mSobeli, Svili, megobari, qveynis moqalaqe da ase Semdeg,Dxolo yovelive amis safuZveli Cvenive adamianuroba, Cvenive humanurobaa. erTaderTi rac Cven 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi SegviZlia viyoT es adamiania. Tu mSobeli xar, pirvel rigSi adamiani xar. Tu Svili xar, adamiani xar, da Tu inJineri xar, am SemTxvevaSic pirvel rigSi adamiani xar. erTaderTi saerTo yvela am manifestaciaSi isaa, rom Cven upirveles yovlisa yvelani adamianebi varT. yovelive amis Rrmad gacnobierebis Sedegad me mivedi im daskvnamde, rom Tu me musikas Cemive adamianurobidan gamomdinare Sevxedav gacilebiT imaze mets SevigrZnob vidre adre, rodesac jer kidev axalgazrdas da umecars megona, rom pirvel rigSi me musikosi viyavi da mere adamiani. maSin me ver vxvdebodi, rom yuTSi vijeqi da iqedan vuyurebdi samyaros da danarCen adamianebs, Tumca me sulac ar mimaCnda, rom es ase iyo. xolo, rodesac acnobiereb Senive adamianurobas, im wamidanve yvelaferi usasruli xdeba. adamiani usasruloa.; is amouwuravia. xalxs ukvirs, rom Cemi yoveli axali albomi wina da yvela sxva danarCeni mousikosebis albomisagan gansxvavdeba. xSirad mekiTxebian Tu rogor vaxerxeb amas. pasuxi martivia, - me geniosi ara var, me ubralod adamiani var da inspiracias Cemive adamianurobis faqtSi da sicocxleSi vpoulob.

niSnavs Tu ara es imas, rom cxovrebidan wamosuli impulsebi ufro mniSvnelovania TqvenTvis vidre nebismieri musikaluri inspiracia?

absoluturad. amaze kargad me ver vityodi. diax, me sicocxle maZlevs yvelaze Zlier impulss musikis keTebis dros da ara TviTon musika.
musika realobidan Cndeba da ara piriqiT.

kidev erTi sityva, romelsac gamudmebiT imeorebT da romelic sruliad uvargisia xmarebaSi bevri adamianisaTvis Tu xelisuflebisaTvis, - sibrZne. ratomaa TqvenTvis mniSvnelovani es sityva?

Cven Zalian rTul samyaroSi gviwevs cxovreba. XXI-e saukune rTuli saukune iqneba. ramdeni ram moxda am ukanasknel xanebSi! me mxolod axal teqnologiebs ar vgulisxmob. teqnologia mudam daxvewis da ganviTarebis procesSia, magram yovelive aman moitana is, rac Cven adre ar gvqonda, - informacia. es Zalzed mniSvnelovani cvlilebaa kacobriobis istoriaSi. esaa informacia, romelic axal teqnologiebze dayrdnobiT da maTi meSveobiT gaCnda. es maradiulobis axali formaa, vinaidan informacia usasruloa. zedmeti informacia aSkara problemebs gviqmnis. Tundac interneti aviRoT. Tu adre me biblioTekaSi unda wavsuliyavi da wignSi momeZebna CemTvis saintereso informacia, exla me ubralod "dava-GOOGLE-eb" CavbeWdav saWiro sityvebs da morCa. amitomac, Cven exla erTgvari gamowvevis poirispir vdgevarT, - movaxerxebT Tu ara mTeli Tavze damtydari informaciis Cvens sasargeblod gadaxarSvas? adre ase ar iyo. adre Cven gvqonda detalebze fiqris dro. exla amis dro aRar gvaqvs. detalebze fiqris dro wavida. dRes Cven vuyurebT televizors da Tu informacia omzea vigebT, rom omis msvlelobisas erTma mxarem amdeni adamiani dakarga, meorem ki amdeni da amdeni. es rom mogvwyindeba sportze gadavrTavT da vigebT rom erTma gundma ama da am angariSiT mougo mowinaaRmdege gunds. amis Sedegad ki yvelaferi ireva, sportuli Sejibris angariSi da omSi daRupulTa ricxvi. ra Tqma unda Cven viciT rom es ori, erTmaneTisagan gansxvavebuli saxis informaciaa- erTi cxovrebaa, meore ki TamaSi, magram amis Rrmad gaazrebis dro Cven aRar gvrCeba; amis magivrad Cven sxva arxze “vxtebiT.” dRes msoflio seriozuli cvlilebebis procesSia, dawyebuli geo-politikidan da damTavrebuli medicinamde. dRes Cven ukve adamianis klonireba SegviZlia. arada es isaa, rasac Cvens bavSvobaSi mxolod da mxolod fantastikuri Janris filmebSi vnaxulobdiT. dRes yvelaferi es realobaa da swored exlaa gadawyvetilebis miReba saWiro Tu sad unda gaivlos zRvari. zRvari ki isev da isev Senive adamianurobis gacnobierebaa da es isaa, rasac me sibrZnes vuwodeb. Tu Sen Segwevs imis unari, rom samyaro adamianuri TvaliT aRiqva da danarCeni adamianebis bedze guli Segtkiva, maSin yvelafers sxvanairad xedav. am dros xvdebi, rom SenTvis yvelaze mTavari “me” ki aRaraaa aramed “Cven.” sicocxle Cven varT, sicocxle es samyaroa, sicocxle es planetaa da Tu Cven yvela gadawyvetilebas Cvenive adamianurobidan gamomdinare mivudgebiT bevri ram Seicvleba. Cven ukeTes gadawyvetilebebs miviRebT politikuri arCevnebis dros, ukeTes gadawyvetilebebs miviRebT kanonebis miRebis dros, Cems konkretul SemTxvevaSi, ukeTes gadawyvetilebebs miviRebT musikis keTebis dros da ase Semdeg. amis gacnobiereba ukve codna ki ara sibrZnea.

ramdenadaa musikosisaTvis mniSvnelovani rom mas gaaCndes socialuri pasuxismgebloba?

musika iaraRia. is adaminebs emsaxureba. musikosi msaxuria iseve rogorc eqimi an advokati. ras vemsaxurebiT Cven? Cven sicocxles vemsaxurebiT. Cven Cvenive sawyiss vemsaxurebiT. Cven adamianebs vemsaxurebiT. es Cveni daniSnulebaa. ai exla, TqvenTan saubrisas, me Tqven rogorc adamiani gesaubrebiT da ara rogorc musikosi. me vcdilob rom is yuradReba rasac Cemdami, rogorc musikosisadmi iCens xalxi, gamoviyeno imisaTvis, rom adamianuroba wavaxaliso maTSi. me vcdilob maTsave sidiadeSi davarwmuno adamianebi;Adavanaxo adamianurobis Zala. esaa is, rasac me vgrZnob... nebismieri adamiania pasuxismgebeli Tavis saqcielze. fuli,  Zalaufleba da popularoba yvelaze mTavari araa cxovrebaSi. yvelaferi es ufro mniSvnelovani Rirebulebebisaken swrafvis wasaxaliseblad unda gamoviyenoT. umaRles Rirebulebebs verc iyidi da verc gayidi, magram, samagierod Sen maTi gacemis ufleba geZleva., rac niSnavs imas, rom Sen maTken swrafvis aucileblobas acocxleb danarCenebSi da pirvel rigSi ra Tqma unda sakuTar TavSi. aseTi GRirebulebebi ki aris simamace, gulaxdiloba, Rirseba, TviTganviTarebisaken swrafva... yvelaferi is rac adamianurobis sidiadis Tavi da Tavia. amitomac, rodesac me scenaze gavdivar, me ar vcdilob, rom mxolod musikaluri koncerti movasmenino darbazSi Sekrebil xalxs; me minda, rom axali gamocdileba SevZino msmenels. Cemi da CemTan erTad scenaze myofi musikosebis mokrZalebuli wvlili isaa, rom SevZloT da gavaRviZoT msmnelSi imis SegrZneba Tu ramdenad Zlieria SemoqmedebiTi muxti TiToeul CvenTaganSi, ramdend amouwuravi SesaZleblobebiTaa savse TiToeuli CvenTaganis sicocxle da ramdeni sidiadea TiToeul CvenTaganSi.

Tqven agreTve araerTxel giTqvamT, rom dRevandel improvizirebul musikaSi saWiroze meti testosteronia da arasakmarisi qaluri sawyisi. ratomaa TqvenTvis mniSvnelovani mamakacuri da qaluri sawyisebis dabalanseba musikaSi da rogor axerxebT Tqven amas?

me jazs ToTxmeti wlis asakidan vukrav. mTeli am wlebis ganmavlobaSi me vamCnevdi, rom rac ufro energiuli da xmamaRali xdeboda musika, miT ufro nakleb qalebs vxedavdi darbazSi. es ganskuTrebiT “fiuJens” exeba. is jazis mZime roki iyo. ase rom, es rom SevamCnie, erT mSvenier dRes isic gamaxsenda rom yvela mniSvnelovani politikuri lideri Tu sazogado moRvaweTa umravlesoba kacebi iyvnen da arian. es araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar niSnavs imas, rom qalebs ideebi ara aqvT. ubralod, xSirad maT seriozul saqmeebs ar akarebdnen. es qalTa aSkara diskriminaciaa da es yvela qveyanaSi xdeboda da xdeba. yuradRebis qveS sul kacebi arian. Sedegi saxezea. Tqven kargad mogexsenebaT amas ra moyva. swored kacebma SeviyvaneT msoflio CixSi da gavamravleT problemebi. exla ki msoflios balansi esaWiroeba, ufro meti humanuroba. Tu Cven isev gavagrZelebT kacebisaTvis msoflios marTvis uflebis miniWebas, Cven, kacebi, adre Tu gvian aucileblad gavJuJavT erTmaneTs; Cven ukve vimyofebiT erTmaneTi gaJuJvis procesSi. magaliTisaTvis aviRoT Tundac religiuri liderebi. maTi umravlesoba kacebi iyvnen da arian. SexedeT ramdeni problemebi Segveqmna religiur niadagze! dRes Cven, amerikelebi, jihadze vlaparakobT, magram amerikelebi Tavisi qristianuli kanonmebiT aranakleb zians ayeneben msoflios. amerikelebi naklebi fundamentalistebi namdvilad ar arian. es yvelaferi ubralod SemaSinebelia da damijereT, veravin ver moigebs am oms. magram modiT saubris Temas davubrundeT; is rac msoflios esaWiroeba da is rac kapitalistur samyaros akli dRes humanizmia. Tu Cven movaxerxebT kapitalizmis Semobrunebas adamianis sicocxlis mniSvnelobis TvalsazrisiT, mxolod am SemTxvevaSi gagviCndeba momavlis perspeqtivebi. Cven humanizmi gvWirdeba da qalebs SeswevT unari miscen msoflios es.  

piradad me ar wamikiTxavs arc erTi statia Tqvenze, romelic sityva “legendiT” an “legendaruliT” ar iwyebodes. xom ar migaCniaT, rom es faqti  zedmet, aramusikalur datvirTvas axdens Tqveni musikis msmenelze? anu, sxvanairad rom vTqvaT, xeli xom ar SeiZleba SeuSalos Tvenma “legendarulma” statusma adamianebis nawils Tqveni musikis smenisas?

namdvilad ar vici axdens Tu ara es zegavlenas Cems msmenelze, magram iciT CemTvis es ras niSnavs? legenda niSnavs imas, rom Sen bebri xar! ara vxumrob. CemTvis marTlac rom pativia rodesac xalxi legendas miwodebs, magram me ar viqnebodi maTTvis legenda me rom 25 an 30 wlis vyofiliyavi. me namdvilad ar aRviqvam Cems Tavs legendad. rogor SeiZleba adamianma ase seriozulad aRiqvas Tavi da sakuTar Tavs legenda uwodos? an geniosi? ar vici, SeiZleba zogierTi geniosi marTlac uwodebda sakuTar Tavs genioss, magram CemTvis es ucxo da uxerxulicaa. nebismier adamianSi devs raRac iseTi sawyisi muxti, romelSic Cedebulia misi usasruli SesaZleblobebi. Cems SemTxvevaSiUuazrobaa imis Tqma, rom me yvelaferi gavakeTe da yvelafers mivaRwie cxovrebaSi. uazroba iqneboda imis Tqmac, rom me ganviTarebis umaRles safexurs mivaRwie da maqsimalurad amovwure amisaTvis CemSi arsebuli potencia. arada yvelaze mniSvnelovani adamianisaTvis swored ukeTesad gaxdomis da uwyveti ganviTarebis mcdelobis procesia. visze ukeTesi SeiZleba gavxde me? ara Senze an imaze ukeTesi, aramed sakuTar Tavze ukeTesi! uazroba Seni cxovrebis sxvisi cxovrebisaTvis Sedareba. Seni cxovreba mxolod da mxolod Sensave cxovrebas SeiZleba Seadaro imitom rom Cven yvela ganvsxvavdebiT erTmaneTisagan. me vaSli var, Sen mzesumzira, is gardenia da ase Semdeg. yvela CvenTagani speqtris ferebiviT ganvsxvavdebiT erTmaneTisagan da Zalzed mniSvnelovania imis Rrmad gacnobiereba, rom Sen mxolod da mxolod am gansxvavebis gamo moevline am qveyanas.! swored es gansxvaveba gaZlevs Sen Sanss, rom Seni ganumeorebeli wvlili Seitano imaSi rasac sicocxle qvia. yvela adamians sakuTari misia aqvs. mesmis, rom Zalian rTulia TiToeuli adamianis mniSvnelobis Rrmad, bolomde gacnobiereba, magram es realobaa. 33 wlis winaT me mqonda bedniereba aRmomeCina budizmi CemTvis. swored budizmis daxmarebiT nacxovrebi cxovrebiT movaxerxe Cems cxovrebaSi momxdari movlenebis ufro naTlad danaxva da Sefaseba. ara Senze an imaze ufro naTlad, aramed ufro naTlad vidre me es SemeZlo 33 wlis winaT. ase rom yvelaferi is, rasac me dRes Tqven geubnebiT swored budizmis daxmarebiT ganviTarebis gzaze myofi adamianis nafiqralia. CemTvis, rogorc budistisaTvis yvelaferi rac Cems cxovrebaSi iWreba SesaZleblobaa, dabrkolebebis da problemebis CaTvliT.  

Tqven ambobT, rom dakvris dros musikaze ar fiqrobT, xom dgeba is momenti scenaze, rodesac Tqven xvdebiT, rom Tqvensa da scenaze mdgom danarCen musikosebs Soris raRac gansakuTrebuli xdeba. ra aris amis indikatori?

cocxali Sesrulebis dros dgeba momentebi, rodesac me vgrZnob raRac gansakuTrebul sinqronizacias Cemsa da bendis danarCen wevrebs Soris. am dros me ubralod vcdilob mivyve am moments da xelidan ar gavuSva is. am dros inteleqts vTiSav xolme da sruliad vTavisufldebi gansjisagan. moxdes is rac mosaxdenia. me ubralod vcdilob xeli ar SevuSalo CemSi SemoWril nakads.

Tqven Telonius monqis jazis institutTan arsebuli sabWos Tavmjdomare xarT. ra gansakuTrebul miznebs isaxavT am poziciaze yofnisas?

wels Telonius monqis instituts arsebobis oci weli Seusruldeba. statistikaze dayrdnobiT Cven, vinc am institutSi vmoRvaweobT, viciT rom institutes mier SemuSavebuli programebi zegavlenas axdens aq moswavle axalgazrdebze. Cven gvaqvs programebi dawyebiT da saSualo skolebSi da me ra Tqma unda vici rom Cvens programebSi monawile yvela axalgazrda ar apirebs musikosad gaxdomas. aqedan gamodinare, Cveni programebis nawili saerTod ar amaxvilebs yuradRebas instrumentebze dakvris unaris amaRlebaze. Cven vcdilobT amerikis istoriis kulturuli aspeqtebzeGgavamaxviloT axalgazrdebis yuradreba; jazi ki amerikis kulturuli istoriis fundamentia. amerika adgilobrivi indielebis da monebis Zvlebze da sisxlzea aSenebuli. swored monebma Seqmnes is, rasac dRes Cven jazs vuwodebT. jazi is musikaa, romelic erTdroulad sxvadasxva qveynebidan wamosuli musikaluri impulsebiT zegavleniT ganviTarda. marTalia is monaTmflobelobis periodSi Seiqmna, magram is monobaze ki ar gesaubreba, aramed adamianis im saocar unarze, rodesac is TavisTvis yvelaze ufro mZime situacias TavisTvis sasargeblo gamocdilebad aqcevs; jazi gesaubreba problemis SemoqmedebiT energiad qcevis SesaZleblobebze; sawamlavis wamlad gadaqcevis aucileblobaze. nebismier adamians Seswevs Zala ase moiqces da amitomac jazi SavkanianTa gamocdilebis Sedegi ki araa, aramed zogadad adamianis gamocdilebis produqtia. swored amitomaa mniSvnelovani, rom jazma arseboba gaagrZelos, vinaidan es isaa rac adamianis suls esaWiroeba. jazi adamianSi uamrav dadebiT Tvisebebs axalisebs: gunduri muSaobis princips, ar-gansjis unars, gacemis aucileblobas, komfortuli zonis miRma fiqrisaTvis aucilebel simamaces, axali teritoriebis dalaSqvris simamaces, unars, rom ar geSinodes Senive sisustis da simyifis. mokled, adamianis yvela diadi Tviseba jazis nawilicaa.Amonqis institutSi Cven aRmovaCineT, rom jazi seriozul zegavlenas axdens axalgazrdebze gadawyvetilebis miRebis  procesSi. niSnebic ukeTesi aqvT. Cven aRmovaCineT rom sul ufro da ufro meti studenti, vinc saerTod ar fiqrobda kolejSi swavlis gagrZelebas, institutSi kursebis gavlis Semdeg gadawyvetilebas iReben swavlis Semdgom gagrZelebaze. ai amitomacaa jazi da Telonius monqis instituti mniSvnelovani.

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