interviu qori uilqesTan

jer kidev sul patara biWi iyaviT, rodesac erTma veteranma jazmenma aseTi ram giTxraT: `biWi, Sen is gaqvs!~ es `is~ sxvadasxva enaze sxvadasxvanairad JRers, magaliTisTvis, espanelebi amas duendes uwodeben _ tener duende espanurad `sulis qonas~ niSnavs. gicdiaT Tu ara, Tundac TqvenTvis, gangemartaT, Tu raa es `is,~ rasac xanSiSesuli jazmeni gulisxmobda? 
    
duende! ho, me wamikiTxavs amis Sesaxeb... es `raRac~ mxolod da mxolod xarisxobrivad xelSesaxebi cnebaa. rodesac vinme kargad ukravs, is musikis meSveobiT gadmogdebs amas da mxolod ase Tu gagrZnobinebs im `raRacis~ qona-arqonas. zogjer koncertis dros viRacas rom usmen, SeiZleba Sendauneburad dagburZglos da es SegrZneba Zalian, Zalian Zlieria; xSirad iseTi Zlieri, rom sityvebiT axsnac ki SeuZlebeli xdeba. bavSvobis droindel SemTxvevas Tu davubrundebiT, gamogitydebiT, rom maSin verc ki gavige, is kaci ras gulisxmobda. merve klasSi viyavi im dros. man miTxra: `Sen es gaqvs!~ me ki megona, rom raRac davaSave, an raRac gavafuWe. mere yvelaferi ufro dawvrilebiT amixsna, magram CemTvis es ganmarteba bevrs arafers niSnavda, radganac yovelTvis imas vukravdi, rasac vgrZnobdi. yovelTvis mqonda kargi musikis SegrZnebis unari da karg musikaSi sul mesmoda is eniT auwereli `raRac.~ sxvaTa Soris, im dros jer kidev ar vicodi, Tu rogor JRerda cudi musika; musika im idumali `raRacis~ gareSe. bavSvobaSi sul Tan davyvebodi mSoblebs taZarSi msaxurebaze, iq ki, wirvis dros, suliwmidis xsenebisTanave adamianebi simReras da cekvas iwyebdnen. ritualur musikas mZlavri energetika aqvs! cudi musika pirvelad, mgoni, kolejSi movismine. maSin mivxvdi, rom amis mizezi is ki ar iyo, rom im musikosebma dakvra ar icodnen, ubralod, maT es auxsneli `is~ ar  hqondaT, CemTvis ki, gonebas Tu movikrebdi, yvelaferi es bunebrivad modioda...

luis armsTrongi ambobda, rom jazi isaa, rac da vinc xar Sen... rodis dadga TqvenTvis is momenti, rodesac mixvdiT, rom mniSvnelovani wvlilis Setana SegeZloT sakuTari musikaluri monacemebiT?  

bavSvobaSi sportis fanatikosi viyavi. fexburTs vTamaSobdi da Zalian kargad vWidaobdi; imdenad kargad, rom Sansic ki mqonda Widaobas profesionalurad gavyolodi. amis gamo, raRac momentSi  skolaSi problemebi Semeqmna _ niSnebi gauaresda. mSoblebi Sewuxdnen da miTxres: `gadawyvetileba unda miiRo da arCevani gaakeTo. yvelafers erTad xom ver mied-moedebi~. swored am dros gadavwyvite musikisTan `darCena~. am gadawyvetilebam Zalian gaabraza Cemi mwvrTneli, magram maSin ukve mesmoda, rom fexburTi an Widaoba Cemi cxovrebis nawili ver gaxdeboda. vigrZeni, rom merCivna is grZnobebi gadameca adamianebisTvis, rasac me viRebdi kargi musikis smenisas. imasac vxvdebodi, rom musikas rac Seexeboda, sxvebi ufro afasebdnen CemSi Cadebul monacemebs, vidre me TviTon. codva iqneboda es niWi rom ar gamomeyenebina. uamravi adamiania garSemo, vinc mTeli cxovreba cdilobs, gaerkves Tu ratom akeTebs imas, rasac akeTebs. ar mindoda erT-erTi maTgani vyofiliyavi...

jazSi warsuli ukve ganvlili da daviwyebuli gza ki ara, aramed mniSvnelobiT savse drois monakveTia, romelsac momavlis gansazRvra ZaluZs. migaCniaT Tu ara, rom jazSi moqmedi musikaluri formebis arsis Casawvdomad aucilebelia mis sawyis formebTan dabruneba am formebis ufro kargad aRsaqmelad?  
 
diax, garkveuli TvalsazrisiT es aucilebelia, Tumca piradad me, rogorc Cikagoels, Sors wasvla arc damWirvebia; Cemive fesvebi, im musikis fesvebi, rasac me vukrav, Cemsave qalaqSia. klubi Velvet Lounge Tavidanve is adgili iyo, sadac jem-seSenebze vukravdi da sadac avangardist jaz-musikosebs vxvdebodi. dResac, CikagoSi rom Cavdivar, pirveli rasac vakeTeb, isaa, rom iq mivdivar dasakvrelad. Tu CikagoSi iqnebiT da kviras Cemi mosmena mogindebaT, qalaqSi Tu var, aucileblad Velvet Lounge-Si mnaxavT. iseTi didi musikosebi, rogorebic arian saqsofonistebi von frimani da fred andersoni, xSirad ukraven iq; Velvet Lounge andersonis klubia da mas da sxva did musikosebs swored iq vxvdebi xolme. amas vgulisxmobdi, rom giTxariT, sakuTari fesvebis dasaZebnad Sors wasvla ar mWirdeba-meTqi; es ukve xanSi Sesuli musikosebi jer kidev cocxlebi arian da maT uamravi ramis swavleba SeuZliaT CemTvis. imdeni jer arc ki micxovria, Zalian Sors rom damWirveboda wasvla. amasTan erTad nu daiviwyebT, rom me hif-hofis Taobis musikosi var, es ki imas niSnavs, rom cali yuri quCiskenac miWiravs; minda vicode, Tu ra xdeba axali musikaSi. me bavSvobidanve vusmendi e.w. `Zvel musikas~ _ Earth Wind and Fire, Ohio Players, BB King-s da bluzs, bebiasTan da babuasTan erTad. ase rom, Cemive fesvebi mudam axlos iyo CemTan...

es is SekiTxvaa, romelsac xval kurt elings davusvam. es misive sityvebia: `Cikago yovelTvis Tavze bandanawakrul polonel qals magonebs; man es-esaa morecxa iataki da axla, muxlebze damdgari emzadeba mis gasaxexad~. ramdenadaa misaRebi TqvenTvis mSobliuri qalaqis aseTi daxasiaTeba?

uh, ar vici... Cikago Zalian Tbili da myudro qalaqia sacxovreblad da ojaxis Sesaqmnelad; is saocrad sainteresoa musikaluri TvalsazrisiT da kidev bevri sxva ramis gamo. is multikulturuli qalaqia, magram niu-iorkisgan gansxvavebiT, sadac yvela da yvelaferi erTmaneTSia gadaxlarTuli, Cikago ufro segregirebulia. miuxedavad amisa, sazogadoebriv Temebs Soris mainc gansakuTrebuli kavSiria, iq adamianebs uyvarT erTad yofna da cxovrebis xarisxic bevrad ufro maRalia, vidre sadme sxvagan, sadac micxovria. sigiJemde miyvars niu-iorki, magram iq ver vicxovrebdi. ra Tqma unda, musikaluri TvalsazrisiT niu-iorki gansakuTrebulia, magram periodulad mainc mindeba misgan Tavis daRweva. CikagoSi advilia yiraze dgoma da movlenebis centrSi yofna, magram Tu am yvelafrisgan dasveneba ginda, esec ar gagiWirdeba. niu-iorkSi es ufro rTuli misaRwevia. Tanac, CikagoSi ufro naklebi fuli gexarjeba...

Tqven ukve axseneT, da mec kidev erTxel gavimeoreb, rom Cikago sruliad gansakuTrebuli adgilia musikaluri TvalsazrisiT. rodesac saqme musikas exeba, Cikagos saunds vaxsenebT da ganvasxvavebT am saunds niu-iorkis an sxva romelime amerikuli qalaqis saundisgan. riTaa gamorCeuli Cikago xmovanebiT danarCeni amerikuli musikaluri kerebisgan?

diax, Cikago marTlac rom gansakuTrebulia musikaluri TvalsazrisiT da upirveles yovlisa imis gamo, rom is bluzis da gosfelis qalaqia. bluzi da gosfeli aq dakruli nebismieri stilis musikis ganuyofeli nawilia. CikagoSi bavSvobidanve SenSia gamjdari ritualuri, saeklesio musika da es ukve sakmarisi sawindaria musikisadmi gansxvavebulad midgomisaTvis; es gansakuTrebiT jazs exeba... yovelTvis mimaCnda, rom is midgoma, rac me maqvs jazisadmi, Cikagos gavleniTaa ganpirobebuli, rodesac jer kidev bavSvobaSi, bebiasTan erTad davdiodi xolme bluzis festivalebze. sul raRac xuTi wlis viyavi, pirvelad bi bi qingi rom movismine! Cemi erT-erTi biZaSvili jaz-trombonisti iyo da isic bevrs damatarebda koncertebze. Zalian bevrs niSnavs, rodesac bavSvobidanve aseT kulturul sferoSi izrdeba adamiani, CikagoSi da masTan asocirebul musikalur garemoSi...

ar maxsovs, es Tqveni berqlis musikalur kolejSi swavlebis periodSi moxda Tu Semdeg, magram erT mSvenier dRes Tqven gadawyvetileba miiReT, wasuliyaviT niu-orleanSi da droebiT iqaur musikalur garemoSi `CanergiliyaviT~. ram ganapiroba Tqveni es gadawyvetileba da, rac ufro mniSvnelovania, ra SeiZineT iq yofnisas iseTi, rac dRemde faseulia TqvenTvis?

niu-orleani! iq sul raRac eqvsi Tve davrCi, magram iq SeZenili gamocdileba erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani ramaa Cems cxovrebaSi. iq ki imitom wavedi, rom luizianas Statis samxreT universitetSi mindoda swavlis gagrZeleba. Cemi da Cemi megobris moris braunis saerTo nacnobi swavlobda iq, magram yvelaferi ise ar aewyo, rogorc vgegmavdiT. saboloo jamSi universitetis magivrad erT-erT adgilobriv eklesiaSi daviwyeT dakvra, magram amas, ra Tqma unda, Semosavali ar mohqonda. Cveni daqiravebuli saxlis parmaRi sagadasaxado samsaxuris CekebiT iyo mofenili. da mainc, niu-orleanSi gatarebuli dro da iqauri musikosebisgan miRebuli gamocdileba absoluturad gansakuTrebuli ramaa. sxvaTa Soris, niu-orleani erTaderTi qalaqia msoflioSi, romelzec ver vityodi, rom msoflios romelime sxva qalaqi mas magonebs. is unikaluri adgilia! iq musika religiaa! iq musikiT sunTqaven ocdaoTxi saaTis ganmavlobaSi. igive xdeba baton ruJSic, luizianas Statis sididiT meore qalaqSic, romelic sul raRac erTi saaTis savalSia niu-orleanidan da amitomac iqauri musikosebi sul aqeT-iqiT mimodian sxvadasxva bendebSi musikis dasakravad. rodesac iqaur sasule orkestrebTan ukrav, ufro Rrmad xvdebi im musikis arss, rac Seni cxovrebis ganuyofeli nawilia. niu-orleanSi jazs sul sxvanairad ukraven, vidre CikagoSi da mSobliur qalaqSi dabrunebis Semdeg ufro kargad mesmoda, Tu ras vakeTebdi. es is codnaa, romelic mTeli cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi gagyveba da is me, wignebidan ki ara, praqtikiT miviRe. me is musikosi var, vinc meqanikurad iTvisebs axals. berkliSi ori weli davrCi da es didebuli gamocdileba iyo CemTvis, magram garkveuli drois Semdeg mivxvdi, rom ufro metis misaRebad berklis miRma unda gadamedga nabiji da cota `sxva wyalSi~ damesvelebina fexi, radganac vxvdebodi, rom akademiuri sivrce yvelafers ver momcemda. spontanuri skola, ai iseTi, moulodnelad rom getakeba da fiqris saSualebas ar gaZlevs, yvelaze bevris momcemia; es da ufrosi Taobis musikosebTan erTad dakvra. yvela Cemi mentori, iqneboda es kahil el zabari Tu ernsT doqinsi, xels miwyobda axali codnis miRebaSi da rom icodeT, ramdeni ram iyo Sesaswavli maTgan, ramdeni ram...  gansakuTrebiT ki im ukve xanSi Sesuli musikosebisgan, vinc jer kidev cocxalia da ukravs. aqve davamateb imasac, rom Cemi Taobis musikosebic _ roi hergrou, niqolas feiToni da sxvebi, Zalian mexmarebodnen Tavisi rCevebiT. ho, es urTierTobebi Zalian damexmara Semdgom ganviTarebaSi...

Tqven Tanamedroveobis albaT erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani da pativcemuli mesayvire, lesTer boui SecvaleT Art Ensemble of Chicago-Si, am ukanasknelis gardacvalebis Semdeg. SegiZliaT gaixsenoT, Tu rogor moxda Tqveni bendSi dapatiJeba bouis partnioris rosqo miCelis mier da ram ganapiroba es?

Art Ensemble of Chicago-mde ori wlis ganmavlobaSi jer miCelis meore bendSi _ Note Factory-Si vukravdi. mas jer kidev im periodSi Sevxvdi, rodesac ernsT doqinsis Little Spirit Big Band-Si vukravdi. erTxel ernsTma rosqo Tavis koncertze miiwvia dasakravad. adre ar myavda rosqo cocxlad mosmenili, Tu ar CavTvliT videoze nanax Art Ensemble of Chicago-s koncerts. simarTle rom giTxraT, arc ki vicodi, Tu ra meloda im dRes, radganac maSin jer kidev mecadine musikosi viyavi, vswavlobdi bi-bofis dakvras da imis droc ki ar mrCeboda Tvalyuri medevnebina Tu ras akeTebda am dros rosqo miCeli. cxrametis Tu ocis viqnebodi im dros. mokled, im saRamos pirvelad rom erTad davukariT, notebis niaRvari mogvayara; megona, es niaRvari scenidan wagvlekavda! solirebisas TiTqmis naxevari saaTis ganmavlobaSi axerxebda wriuli sunTqvis meSveobiT saqsofonze SeuCereblad dakvras! cxovrebaSi arasdros momesmina da menaxa aseTi ram da gamogitydebiT, rom es cota Seuracxmyofelic ki iyo, ai aseTi maRali done! Tanac, me xom im saRamos msmeneli ar viyavi? me masTan erTad videqi scenaze da unda damekra!
is dRe saerTod dauviwyari iyo, radganac ramdenime formatSi unda damekra. dauviwyari da mZime... rosqos garda ernsTanac unda damekra, da manamdis ki momReral megi braunTan, osqar braun umcrosis qaliSvilTanac. Zalian rTulia vokalistebTan dakvra, radganac am dros Sen akompaniatori xar da ara solisti. Sesabamisad, maTTan muSaobisas ufro rbili, liriuli midgoma unda gamoiyeno.  im dRes rosqos TiTqmis yvela Cemi SesaZleblobis mosmenis saSualeba mieca, solistis, akompaniatoris da ase Semdeg. Tavisi STabeWdilebebi erT megobars, dramer vins deviss gauziara, am ukanasknelma ki rosqos sityvebi me gadmomca. man miTxra: `rosqos Zalian moewona Seni dakruli im dRes da mTxova masTan saxlSi migiyvano; unda, rom erTad daukraT~. am saubris Semdeg rosqos gadavureke. man miTxra: `ho, modi CemTan~. es is periodi iyo, rodesac is Tavisi axali albomisTvis, Song For My Sister werda musikas. simarTle rom giTxraT, maSin arc ki vicodi, Tu ratom dampatiJa da niSnavda Tu ara es mipatiJeba imas, rom mis bendSi unda damekra; megona, rom ubralod unda gvemecadina. man notebi miCvena da Sevecade am gziT gavrkveuliyavi mis musikaSi; damijereT, rosqos notebis kiTxva arcTu ioli saqmea! es adamiani, gansakuTrebiT ki rodesac saqsofoni/ebi uWiravs xelSi, absoluturad unikaluria! ori saaTis ganmavlobaSi vukravdiT, mere ki miTxra: `kargia uilqi, kargia! axla ki modi, saqmes SevudgeT~.  da daiwyo sruli sigiJe! is ukravda, me ki raRac fsevdosamocianelur, ZiriTadad daswavlil kiloebs mived-movedebodi. is wamdauwum maCerebda, arafers meubneboda, ubralod mcireodeni pauzis Semdeg ambobda: `mzad xar? Tavidan!~ mexuTed Tu meeqvsed rom moxda ase, gavbrazdi da axla sul sxvanairad daviwye dakvra; vukravdi imis sawinaaRmdegos, rasac is ukravda! manamde ki lamis fexdafex mivdevdi. ar SevuCerebivar! swored maSin mivxvdi, Tu rogori partniori sWirdeboda dakvrisas. Cven ukve didxans vukravT erTad da SevamCnie, rom rodesac is sxvebTan, misTvis jer kidev ucnob musikosebTan ukravs, is raRac ideas sTavazobs maT,  da Tu isini brmad mihyvebian mis ideas, rosqo advilad brazdeba xolme...

modi isev lesTer bouis davubrundeT; man erTxel Tqva, rom jazmens musikaluri cnobismoyvareobis dasakmayofileblad ramdenime bendi esaWiroebao...

ho, vici da swored lesTeris gamoa, ramdenime bendSi rom vukrav erTdroulad. amas misi wamxedurobiT vakeTeb...

...swored es mainteresebs: amas imitom akeTebT, rom am dros Sesabamis formats eZebT Tqvenive ideebis ufro kargad gadmosacemad, Tu ubralod advilad amogdiT yelSi mxolod erT bendTan muSaoba? (qori uilqess ori bendi hyavs _ Abstract Pulse da Black Slang - k.T)

me ubralod musika miyvars. uamrav sxvadasxva musikosTan damikravs stilisturad da Janrobrivad gansxvavebuli musika mxolod imis gamo, rom Cven saerTo interesebi gvaerTianebda. am dros ki xSirad xdeboda ise, rom is musikosebi sruliad axali arxis gaxsnas axerxebdnen CemSi. magaliTisTvis aviRoT Cemi bendi Abstract Pulse. Cven axali saukunis dasawyisidan vukravT erTad. drameri aizaia sfenseri da saqsofonisti qevin naborsi Cemi saukeTeso megobrebi arian. bavSvobidan vicnobT erTmaneTs. erTad ki imitom SevikribeT, rom iseTi musikis dakvra gvindoda, vinc da rac Cven varT. saboloo jamSi xom yvelaferi karg da cud musikamde dadis?! imdenad mogvewona erTad dakvra, rom gadavwyviteT, bendad davrCeniliyaviT. ra Tqma unda, is, rom yvela Cvengani AACM-is (kreatiul musikosTa ganviTarebis asociacia. 1965 wels Cikagoeli musikosebis mier daarsebuli organizacia. www.aacmchicago.org-k.T) skolagavlili varT da es faqti Zalian bevrs niSnavs CvenTvis. Cven ar gvindoda rosqo miCelis, kahil el zabaris Tu ernsT doqinsis mier dasaxuli gzidan gadaxveva, magram amave dros Cems pirvel diskze Drop It absoluturad gansxvavebuli gruvi Tu teqsturebi SegxvdebaT, rac ukve imis Sedegia, Tu rogor gvesmis musika yvelaferi amis miRma. roca Cemi bendisTvis musikas vwerdi, im periodSic ki, rodesac rosqosTan erTad turneSi viyavi, sastumroSi rom vbrundebodi da Cems masalas vujdebodi, mindoda is musika gadametana notebSi, rac me mesmoda. aseTi musikis Sesrulebas ki sxva tipis musikosebi esaWiroeba; me maT veZebdi da vpoulobdi. es Cemi cxovrebaa da esaa is, risi keTebac momwons.

musikosebis garda, Tqven axalgazrda poetebTanac TanamSromlobT, magaliTisTvis e.w. disko-poet hari bisTan... (Khari B _ www.disco-poetry.com)    
         
hari bi! saidan icnobT mas? ese igi muaTa boudenze gsmeniaT, ara? is hari bi-s mamaa. saocari musikosi, da AACM-is wevri. es sul erTi saerTo wrea CikagoSi _ me, aizaia sfenseri, qevin abramsi, basisti darius seviji... hari bis maTi meSveobiT Sevxvdi da, ukve didi xania, vTanamSromlobT...

Tqven erTxel TqviT, rom vinaidan istoriulad jazi cekvasTan asocirdeba, survili gaqvT, cekva jazs daubrunoT. ratom migaCniaT, rom es nabiji aqtualuria TqvenTvis, da Sesabamisad jazisTvisac, dRevandel konteqstSi?

dRes jazi ukve aRaraa iseTi popularuli, saxalxo musika, rogorc adre, gasuli saukunis ormocianebsa Tu ormocdaaTianebSi. raRac momentSi axalgazrdebma interesi dakarges jazis mimarT mxolod erTi ramis gamo _ jazur musikaze cekva SeuZlebeli gaxda. me ar minda mxolod sacekvao gruvze orientirebuli musikis dakvra, aseTi musika, rogorc wesi, wyalwyalaa. minda, rom Cemi musikis smenisas adamianebma raRac SeigrZnon da amave dros koncertze kargi droc gaataron. me miyvars cekva, miyvars hif-hofis da sxva saxis musikis smena da absoluturad normalurad mimaCnia saerTo interesebiT gaerTianebul adamianebTan erTad aseTi musikis dakvra. musikosebi, romlebic Cem meore bendSi, Black Slang ukraven, sxvadasxva musikaluri wreebidan arian. Cikago, rogorc ukve vaxsene, sakmaod segregirebulia am TvalsazrisiT. gosfelis Semsrulebeli musikosebi, rogorc wesi, klasikuri musikis SemsruleblebTan `tusaoben~, sxvebi TavisianebTan, me ki yvela maTganTan, radganac Cemi cnobismoyvareoba amouwuravia; yvelaferi mainteresebs! Cemi drameri gosfelis skolis mimdevaria, basists ki ubralod yvelafris dakvra SeuZlia Tanabrad kargad. rodesac is ukravs, musika ar JRers ise, TiTqos jazmeni avangarduli musikis an jazmeni hif-hofis dakvras cdilobdes. is JRers ise, rogorc ubralod Zalian kargi musikosi. Cem musikas rom davubrunde, Black Slang-Tan dakvra rac daviwye, axalgazrda msmenelTa ricxvma erTiorad imata. jazs rom vukrav, darbazSi bevr axalgazrdas ver SeniSnavT. iciT, kidev raze vfiqrob? vin iqneba Cemi msmeneli ormocdaaTis an samocis rom gavxdebi? es absoluturad saRi SekiTxvaa. is adamianebi, vinc dRes jazs usmens, ukve cocxlebi aRar iqnebian, ara? amanac gadamawyvetina sxva bendebis amoqmedeba, radganac am gziT Cemi karierac gaxangrZlivdeba. adamianebs sxvadasxva interesebi amoZravebT. ise ar gamigoT, TiTqos maT jazis mosmena aRar surT. ara! rodesac axalgazrdebi Cems jaz-gigebze modian, sruliad moulodnel reaqcias avlenen: `uh, arc ki vicodi jazi aseTi sakaifo Tu iyo! jazi marTlac rom fantastikuri yofila!~  maT ubralod arc ki hqoniaT imis saSualeba, rom jazi normalurad moesminaT! ai, am gauTviTcnobierebis mTavari mizezi!

radgan axalgazrdebze Camovarda sityva, Tqven ara marto AACM-is wevri xarT, aramed Cikagos jazis institutis (www.jazzinchicago.org) bordis wevric. ramdenadac vici, institutis ZiriTadi Zalisxmeva swored axalgazrda jaz-auditoriis mizidvazea mimarTuli.

institutTan, romelic xSirad swored AACM-Tan erTad axorcielebs programebs, ukve didi xania, vTanamSromlob da am xnis ganmavlobaSi marTlac rom bevri gakeTda. dReisTvis bevri saintereso programa moqmedebs, magaliTisTvis Made in Chicago, romelic saSualebas aZlevs adgilobriv musikosebs, sxvadasxva festivalebSi miiRon monawileoba. instituts axalgazrda marketologTa didebuli Semadgenloba hyavs, romlebsac kargad esmiT, Tu ras niSnavs msgavsi proeqtebis warmatebulad organizeba. Zalian, Zalian bevri ram gakeTda jazis popularizaciis TvalsazrisiT institutis da AACM-is mier... isini ara marto jazis, aramed erTmaneTis aqtivobebis promociasac ewevian... es mniSvnelovania!   

dabolos, es Tqveni pirveli gamosvla iqneba saqarTveloSi. ras eliT dRevandeli saRamosgan?